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mods note, split from hereSo, I’m not sure if these have been shared on here already. If not, be prepared, your in for a surprise…
Are there any mock ups for the 170s?
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mods note, split from hereSo, I’m not sure if these have been shared on here already. If not, be prepared, your in for a surprise…
Not the internals?Yes, someone uploaded it earlier in the thread.
No, just the exterior livery.Not the internals?
I think the internal mock ups are what was being asked for...T
No, just the exterior livery.
Are there any mock ups for the 170s?
I think this is the one
I’d be gobsmacked if the refurbishment didn’t land them with charging points these days. Utterly gobsmacked.The Modern Railways article does not mention whether any power sockets or USB ports are being fitted to the Class 170's, although a render of a second class table bay does show table mounted 3 pin sockets so I am hopeful they are included.
Yet here we are on SWR, with the 159s still yet to be fitted with any power except First Class. Despite a recent refurbishment. Can't rule it out...I’d be gobsmacked if the refurbishment didn’t land them with charging points these days. Utterly gobsmacked.
Hardly a refurbishment, they put some seat covers on the standard class seats. There's not even that in first.Yet here we are on SWR, with the 159s still yet to be fitted with any power except First Class. Despite a recent refurbishment. Can't rule it out...
Scope of the refurbishment, Class 170/1, 170/3, 170/5 and 170/6
- new seats and tables throughout, retaining existing layouts
- new PIS including:
- LCD screens
- call for aid (CfA)
- passenger emergency alarm (PEA)
Scope of the refurbishment, Class 170/2
The level of compliance achieved with the requirements of the PRM NTSN can be summarised for the refurbishment scope as follows:
- new seats and tables in the existing first-class areas, are to be declassified to a standard class area
- new seats in the wheelchair area next to the universal access toilet (UAT)
- no change to all other existing seats with foams and moquettes renewed only
- new PIS including LCD screens, CfA, and PEA
This summary clearly shows Porterbrook’s commitment to the betterment of the Class 170 fleet, with 90 of 92 applicable clauses meeting compliance in full.
- 90 requirements to achieve compliance achieved
- 118 requirements not applicable
- 2 requirements for dispensation
Interesting, are the seats red?The mockup photos for the XC 170s from the Modern railways article...
I have to say I do find it funny that you think this and yet pay for it yourself… or were you expecting a Voyager to show?It isn’t an Intercity (it’s a long distance regional service so what’s the point in 1st.
They’ve got awful legroom, I try my best to avoid XC 170s as at 6’6” I basically have to standI have no problem with the existing seats in XC 170s they're comfortable enough, the headrests are very good, so are the arm rests.
Seen pictures today of the 170 proposal........the chargers appear to be in a block bolted to the central underside in the middle of the tables. I guess this is to make them robust and easily accessible (as opposed to between the seats which is a bit fiddly). Not sure how that's going to affect leg room when you're trying to slide in and out as in smacking your knee on them. But it's a mock up and things change. Wall mounted seems the better option but it's just how much work that entails.Yet here we are on SWR, with the 159s still yet to be fitted with any power except First Class. Despite a recent refurbishment. Can't rule it out...
I travelled on one of the Cardiff to Nottingham services Friday morning. The conductor apologised for lack of charging sockets and said there wouldn't be until after cross country complete their refurbishmentThe Modern Railways article does not mention whether any power sockets or USB ports are being fitted to the Class 170's, although a render of a second class table bay does show table mounted 3 pin sockets so I am hopeful they are included.
Is it worse on the /1s than the /6s? I can’t say I’d noticed.2+2 seating in First Class, will make it less appealing and will be a bit like first class on Southern or Great Northern.
Hopefully they might do something with the awful legroom on the /1 subclass.
West Midlands Trains (WMT) has signed a new long-term maintenance contract with CrossCountry to continue maintaining the long-distance operator’s Class 170 fleet at WMT’s Tyseley depot in Birmingham.
The contract, which started this month, secures jobs in the region through to 2031 and reaffirms the partnership between the two train operating companies. It will see WMT continue to maintain, service and clean the Class 170 fleet.
John Doughty, Engineering Director at West Midlands Trains, said:
“Servicing, maintaining and cleaning the Class 170 fleet has been, and continues to be, an important part of Tyseley depot’s workload and we are delighted to have signed this new contract with CrossCountry.
"The Class 170 fleet provides services connecting regions running from Cardiff and Gloucester in the west through Birmingham to Derby, Leicester and Nottingham in the East Midlands and onwards to Peterborough, Cambridge and Stansted Airport in the east.
“The fleet shares many synergies with West Midlands Trains’ own class 172 fleet and the contract ties in perfectly with our commitment to investing in new infrastructure at depots.”
Adrian Hugill, CrossCountry’s Fleet & Engineering Director, said:
“It’s fantastic to announce our renewed contract with West Midlands Trains who have looked after our regional Class 170 fleet so carefully for many years already. With Tyseley so close to the hub of the CrossCountry network in Birmingham, not only does this decision make perfect operational sense, but it’s important for us to support the communities and economies in Tyseley and wider Birmingham with many more years of planned work for the West Midlands Trains depot.”
As part of infrastructure investments, in addition to a completed new stores building and an already improved fuelling and servicing facility, Tyseley depot is undergoing major upgrades.
The work includes the installation of four new high level mobile gantries and hoists, a synchronous lift facility to lift a full length unit, a package of environmental improvements including shore supplies to reduce diesel engine running, extensions to two of the maintenance buildings and the introduction of an Automatic Vehicle Inspection System (AVIS).
Seems XC have extended the outsourced maintenance of its 170s to 2031 with West Midlands trains at Tyseley
West Midlands Trains and CrossCountry sign new long-term maintenance contract
West Midlands Trains (WMT) has signed a new long-term maintenance contract with CrossCountry to continue maintaining the long-distance operator’s Class 170 fleet at WMT’s Tyseley depot in Birmingham.The contract, which started this month, secures jobs in the region through to 2031 and reaffirms...www.westmidlandsrailway.co.uk
UK: Porterbrook Leasing has awarded Tidyco a contract to overhaul and refurbish 444 cab and saloon heating, ventilation and air-conditioning modules from ADtranz/Bombardier Class 170 Turbostar diesel multiple-units operated by East Midlands Railway and CrossCountry.
Porterbrook and Tidyco have worked together to develop a bespoke overhaul programme, including component replacement, fan overhauls and thorough testing.
The project is expected to take 2½ years.
‘Tidyco has put a tremendous amount of effort into establishing itself as a key player in the rail overhaul sector and Porterbrook’s decision to engage Tidyco is a testament to that’, said the hydraulic and pneumatic products company’s Rail Division Director Paul Jacks on May 13.
Guy Heywood, Head of Procurement at Porterbrook, said ‘part of the appeal of working with Tidyco was its flexibility and adaptiveness. We saw how they could help us, and both companies being based in Derby meant that problems were easier to address, and processes could be streamlined quickly and efficiently.’