Ex LNER (and Grand Central) Mark 4 sets for TfW

[sd0733]

A much better time over the past 7 days with 100% coverage of Mk4 booked workings, and all 25 running diagrams were 5 car sets too.

Tomorrow should see the return of long term out of use 67020 which is planned out with HD02 on the 04:54 from Crewe and also HD05 returning to the fray as a 4 car which should come out on the 10:52 from Cardiff.

There's a mostly full set of diagrams planned for next week too, not quite as good as last week as due to HD06 unusually having an exam in Holyhead, the 05:30 from Holyhead on Monday and 17:14 from Cardiff on Wednesday will be units to swap HD06 out and back in again. HD01 and HD03 are both at Crewe on exams but the rest of the fleet should be available all week.

 

[Lurcheroo]

A much better time over the past 7 days with 100% coverage of Mk4 booked workings, and all 25 running diagrams were 5 car sets too.

Tomorrow should see the return of long term out of use 67020 which is planned out with HD02 on the 04:54 from Crewe and also HD05 returning to the fray as a 4 car which should come out on the 10:52 from Cardiff.

There's a mostly full set of diagrams planned for next week too, not quite as good as last week as due to HD06 unusually having an exam in Holyhead, the 05:30 from Holyhead on Monday and 17:14 from Cardiff on Wednesday will be units to swap HD06 out and back in again. HD01 and HD03 are both at Crewe on exams but the rest of the fleet should be available all week.

That’s good going! A much needed improvement for sure.

Also in good news it seems that the majority of the 5th diagram was covered by 3 car 197’s one day it looks like half was covered by a 2 car and then a 4car for the 2nd half (which included the notoriously busy 18:30 departure from Manchester).

 

[berneyarms]

A much better time over the past 7 days with 100% coverage of Mk4 booked workings, and all 25 running diagrams were 5 car sets too.

Tomorrow should see the return of long term out of use 67020 which is planned out with HD02 on the 04:54 from Crewe and also HD05 returning to the fray as a 4 car which should come out on the 10:52 from Cardiff.

There's a mostly full set of diagrams planned for next week too, not quite as good as last week as due to HD06 unusually having an exam in Holyhead, the 05:30 from Holyhead on Monday and 17:14 from Cardiff on Wednesday will be units to swap HD06 out and back in again. HD01 and HD03 are both at Crewe on exams but the rest of the fleet should be available all week.

So that leaves HD05 as the only set remaining to have the extra car fitted and once that is completed, it should, in theory, mean that the seven sets then slot into a regular pattern of exams that (barring loco issues) should avoid multiple sets on exam at the same time to the extent that the diagrams can’t be covered?

 

[sd0733]

So that leaves HD05 as the only set remaining to have the extra car fitted and once that is completed, it should, in theory, mean that the seven sets then slot into a regular pattern of exams that (barring loco issues) should avoid multiple sets on exam at the same time to the extent that the diagrams can’t be covered?

Yes that's correct HD05 is the only one left as a 4 car.
The B exams which were the one that was done when the 5th car was added are now on their next rotation with no real impact on availability now they're spread better and loco availability is much much better than it was with a few which were long time out of use now back in service, 017 being the exception.
Certainly a much better position than has been the case for a long while. In general it does seem that the corner has been turned, Hopefully not jinxed it now and it all comes crashing back down!!

 

[route101]

I had a good ride on the 0627 from Manchester yesterday from P13. The buffet was open too.

 

[Lurcheroo]

Yes that's correct HD05 is the only one left as a 4 car.
The B exams which were the one that was done when the 5th car was added are now on their next rotation with no real impact on availability now they're spread better and loco availability is much much better than it was with a few which were long time out of use now back in service, 017 being the exception.
Certainly a much better position than has been the case for a long while. In general it does seem that the corner has been turned, Hopefully not jinxed it now and it all comes crashing back down!!

It’ll be a good day when all 5 diagrams are covered by 5 coach MK4’s.

Now, next week will see total failure of units and we’ll be back to square 1

 

[03_179]

Morning all,

Are the following trains "booked" as a cl.67+MkIV
Saturdays (18/05/24)
1W60 Carmarthan to Manchester
(I'll be on between Hereford and Crewe)

Bank Holidays Mondays (27/05/2024)
1W61 Cardiff Central to Crewe
(I'll be on between Cardiff Central to Newport(South Wales))

Just thinking of a couple trips.
If a cl.67+MkIV would be a bonus but not essential.

Thanks in advance,

 

[MP393]

Morning all,

Are the following trains "booked" as a cl.67+MkIV
Saturdays (18/05/24)
1W60 Carmarthan to Manchester
(I'll be on between Hereford and Crewe)

Bank Holidays Mondays (27/05/2024)
1W61 Cardiff Central to Crewe
(I'll be on between Cardiff Central to Newport(South Wales))

Just thinking of a couple trips.
If a cl.67+MkIV would be a bonus but not essential.

Thanks in advance,

No to both, unfortunately. They don’t operate west of Swansea, so anything from Carmarthen etc is a no go from the get go.

1W61 is part of the “missing diagram” at the minute during the week and is booked 197.

 

[03_179]

No to both, unfortunately. They don’t operate west of Swansea, so anything from Carmarthen etc is a no go from the get go.

1W61 is part of the “missing diagram” at the minute during the week and is booked 197.

Thanks. The fact they aren't, won't affect plans but there was always a hope.

 

[MCR247]

A much better time over the past 7 days with 100% coverage of Mk4 booked workings, and all 25 running diagrams were 5 car sets too.

Tomorrow should see the return of long term out of use 67020 which is planned out with HD02 on the 04:54 from Crewe and also HD05 returning to the fray as a 4 car which should come out on the 10:52 from Cardiff.

There's a mostly full set of diagrams planned for next week too, not quite as good as last week as due to HD06 unusually having an exam in Holyhead, the 05:30 from Holyhead on Monday and 17:14 from Cardiff on Wednesday will be units to swap HD06 out and back in again. HD01 and HD03 are both at Crewe on exams but the rest of the fleet should be available all week.

Ah great I was hoping to do the full run in first class on Wednesday evening Do TfW refund anything if you’ve bought a first advance ticket does anyone know?

 

[sd0733]

Now, next week will see total failure of units and we’ll be back to square 1

Doesn't look far wrong! HD02 didn't make it out with an air conditioning fault and HD05 wasn't ready either so Is now planned out on the 18:55 instead of the 10:52

Ah great I was hoping to do the full run in first class on Wednesday evening Do TfW refund anything if you’ve bought a first advance ticket does anyone know?

You may be in luck! Seems due to the delay getting HD05 out today everything has shuffled back a day so Wednesdays 1W96 should be now run with HD02 and Thursday will more likely be the day its swapped to a unit now.

 

[MCR247]

Doesn't look far wrong! HD02 didn't make it out with an air conditioning fault and HD05 wasn't ready either so Is now planned out on the 18:55 instead of the 10:52


You may be in luck! Seems due to the delay getting HD05 out today everything has shuffled back a day so Wednesdays 1W96 should be now run with HD02 and Thursday will more likely be the day it’s swapped to a unit now.

I hope I am in luck thanks for the update!

 

[Jez]

Ah great I was hoping to do the full run in first class on Wednesday evening Do TfW refund anything if you’ve bought a first advance ticket does anyone know?

TFW will refund the difference between first and standard class fare if there isnt a 1st class service. Hopefully you wont need a refund however!

 

[MCR247]

TFW will refund the difference between first and standard class fare if there isnt a 1st class service. Hopefully you wont need a refund however!

Great, thank you!

 

[Kite159]

I know it's probably looking too far ahead but on the 1st June are they likely to be any Mk4 sets out on the diverted services from Crewe towards Cardiff via Chester when the line via Nantwich is closed, or will that weekend be all units due to more limited staff knowledge?

 

[BillStampy]

HD02 + 67020 is allocated for the 0627 start tomorrow morning! Welcome back 67020! (If it makes it off Crewe..)

 

[sd0733]

I know it's probably looking too far ahead but on the 1st June are they likely to be any Mk4 sets out on the diverted services from Crewe towards Cardiff via Chester when the line via Nantwich is closed, or will that weekend be all units due to more limited staff knowledge?

In the past the diagrams on diversion have been extremely similar to the ordinary diagrams. The diversion effectively takes the time it would take to get to Manchester so it balances the diagrams.

HD02 + 67020 is allocated for the 0627 start tomorrow morning! Welcome back 67020! (If it makes it off Crewe..)

The Air Con issue has been sorted so it should be out, there was nothing wrong with the loco.

 

[BillStampy]

The Air Con issue has been sorted so it should be out, there was nothing wrong with the loco.

Knowing the sets, anything could go wrong

 

[Jamesrob637]

Knowing the sets, anything could go wrong

It's back out

 

[Lurcheroo]

Not a good start for 67020. Loss of power reported Between Shrewsbury and Church Stretton.
Driver has been able to get power from the loco end so is heading back wrong road to Shrewsbury.
Might be a DVT issue and just unfortunate that 67020 was providing the motive power.

 

[Topological]

I see we have a pair of 153s on the 10:52 Cardiff to Manchester today. Presumably, that is due to 67020 failing. Hopefully, there will be some unit swapping so that we do not see 197/1s on short journeys that are often 2-car and the 153s actually going to Manchester.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Not a good start for 67020. Loss of power reported Between Shrewsbury and Church Stretton.
Driver has been able to get power from the loco end so is heading back wrong road to Shrewsbury.
Might be a DVT issue and just unfortunate that 67020 was providing the motive power.

Fitter on site attempting to fix it.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

I see we have a pair of 153s on the 10:52 Cardiff to Manchester today. Presumably, that is due to 67020 failing. Hopefully, there will be some unit swapping so that we do not see 197/1s on short journeys that are often 2-car and the 153s actually going to Manchester.

That has been unit substituted due to 1V91 which forms the 1052 being stuck in Shrewsbury behind failed HD02. I imagine the 1249 ex Cardiff will also be substituted as this would have been formed by 67020.

 

[BillStampy]

That has been unit substituted due to 1V91 which forms the 1052 being stuck in Shrewsbury behind failed HD02. I imagine the 1249 ex Cardiff will also be substituted as this would have been formed by 67020.

If whoever is on site manages to fix it, they could run it empty to Cardiff/Canton for the 1249, unlikely but the option is always there. What's happening with the Holyhead set? Is it still at Shrewsbury?

 

[sd0733]

If whoever is on site manages to fix it, they could run it empty to Cardiff/Canton for the 1249, unlikely but the option is always there. What's happening with the Holyhead set? Is it still at Shrewsbury?

They're both heading back to Shrewsbury but not sure what the plan Is then.
HD02 isn't Driveable from the DVT, only the loco so that'll almost certainly head to Crewe.
The set off V91 can't go to Crewe too or they'll have 5 sets which don't fit so that will have to go somewhere else.
Seems it was figured out pretty quickly that the set was OK with the loco leading and that much of the delay was awaiting Network Rail to clip the points to return wrong line.

A really terrible day all round, HD05 not allowed out with a wheelflat and 67022 also suffering power issues around Ludlow on 1W11. At the moment, it looks like last weeks good behaviour was something of a one off rather than turned corners sadly.

 

[BillStampy]

HD07 can't go to Crewe too or they'll have 5 sets which don't fit so that will have to go somewhere.

They could send it to Canton and swap the diagrams around with HD02 to keep up the 1249 from Cardiff. Or just move it to Canton and keep it there

Edit: HD04, Holyhead diagram, is moving South to Cardiff empty

 

[MP393]

67020 + HD02 are now heading back empty to ATC at Crewe as 5V33, but via Chester to avoid a reversal at Crewe to keep the loco leading.

 

[sd0733]

They could send it to Canton and swap the diagrams around with HD02 to keep up the 1249 from Cardiff. Or just move it to Canton and keep it there

The set off V91 has gone to Cardiff so that doing the 12:49 to get a set to Cardiff tonight does seem most likely.

 

[wireforever]

Just a question on the TFW class 67 locos is 67022 the only one in the black livery (I have seen on you tube)or are there more in this livery
many thanks

 

[MP393]

Just a question on the TFW class 67 locos is 67022 the only one in the black livery (I have seen on you tube)or are there more in this livery
many thanks

67020 is also black. 67016 is currently being repainted, having been fitted with the Mk4 mods, I’d be surprised if that doesn’t come out in the black livery too when out shopped.

The set off V91 has gone to Cardiff so that doing the 12:49 to get a set to Cardiff tonight does seem most likely.

67022 + HD07 are now forming 1W19 12:49 Cardiff Manchester instead. That set arrived on 1V37 08:30 ex Manchester.

Normally that would form the evening Holyhead but as the diagrams have gone out of the window today I would guess that HD04+67015 will work 1W96 later instead, if anything.