Realise this is an update from February, but has anyone got a latest state of play on which Class 701's have yet to be delivered and which ones have entered service.
As far as I’m aware, it’s 028, 036, 037, 039 & 043 that have entered service.
Sorry if this has been explained before, but what exactly does this mean?
It indirectly means SWR have now accepted those units.
Much like a bank does when they fund a house purchase. In order to protect their funds they raise a charge against the house which must be discharged (by repaying the funds) before the house can be sold. In relation to the 701s Rock Rail South Western = a bank; the 701s = a house.
I think the list of charges is now
Yes indeed, see post 9,000
Isn't it a bit more complicated?
www.telegraph.co.uk
The third, I think. On both March 15th and 28th it only managed to come out to play in time for the second round trip.
Not bad for an appauling entry into service - maybe the issue wasn’t ever with the trains..
Maybe go look up how many faults each unit was delivered with.
Well by all accounts the 701s have been around for quite a whilelikely 701043 will soon go through mid-life exam/overhaul
.The article is incorrect, SWR have been paying lease costs since October 2020. They only pay for ones they have accepted which was 3 until mid 2022, whether or not they are used for passenger services doesn't matter.Isn't it a bit more complicated?
From my post #8662
How a 200-year-old British industry reached the end of the line
"no payments due until the trains actually enter service"How a 200-year-old British industry reached the end of the line
Once a Victorian behemoth, train manufacturers are now fighting for survival
If I get this right Rock Rail South Western PLC is a subsidiary of Gillemot Investments who have brought the 540 vehicles from Alstom
But SWR (First/MTR) and DfT are only currently paying the lease from Rock Rail South Western PLC for the 4 (or 5) 701s in service? (and SWR currently pay the low leasing costs for the old 455s)
Once all 750 vehicles go in service Gillemot Investments (and shareholders) should make a good long term profit
What is the MTIN of the 345s and 710s?
It depends who you ask for a definition of the term ”fault”.
OK thanks
Could that be related to the fact that none of the other Aventra fleets operate on 750V DC?
Yes, if so we've found the first notable different between the motor sounds. Everything else is identical to AC sound wise
Many thanks.
Correct which is why DafT should be leaning on SWR to get them into use as there now footing the bill for two lots of trains.
One might almost feel some sympathy with DfT as the treasury seemingly won't okay the cost of the training course required which would, in time, lead to one less fleet.
I hasten to add that, as with other train classes, it’s not the three phase motors that sound different. It’s the traction electronics which are ’overlaid’ on the motor sound.
*Almost
710/2 and 710/3 units can also operate on 750V DC.