Well with me it is a running joke that I need it for haulage so I am waiting patiently for it to return to traffic.other than it being one of the final electric locomotives built at Crewe, I’m not sure why there is so much interest in 90050 in particular. Am I missing something?
Not sure it is anything other than the fact that Freightliner have agreed to lease it to the Heritage Centre as they no longer need it now it is gutted for partsother than it being one of the final electric locomotives built at Crewe, I’m not sure why there is so much interest in 90050 in particular. Am I missing something?
Without wanting to head down the speculative route too much, is there actually any likely home for all of these in the UK?90019/20/21/24/26/28/29/34/35/36/37/39 now up for sale
Disposals
Assets such as locomotives, wagons, coaching stock and nameplates that are surplus to requirements are made available to buy from DB Cargo UK.uk.dbcargo.com
90019/20/21/24/26/28/29/34/35/36/37/39 now up for sale
Disposals
Assets such as locomotives, wagons, coaching stock and nameplates that are surplus to requirements are made available to buy from DB Cargo UK.uk.dbcargo.com
Without wanting to head down the speculative route too much, is there actually any likely home for all of these in the UK?
Freightliner already have a good number of them in their fleet, DRS don't utilise their 88s fully, Colas & DCR don't seem to have any call for electric locos & GB have the 99s on order.
I know the Grand Union OAO bids in the past have included use of electric locos but there is now a lack of suitable coaching stock so I guess that is another option out of the running (presuming they are still proceeding with these bids). Is export the most likely option at this stage?
The market in Eastern Europe has changed, though, with leasing companies increasingly active and having some mid-life fleets (TRAXX AC etc). Siemens also now offer their low-cost Smartron locos.Strongly suspect the 2023 withdrawn ones end up in Eastern Europe like so many UK AC locos have, as there is no obvious UK use for them.
All of the Freightliner 86s that remained in service until final withdrawal went on to export to Bulgaria though so there's still demand apparently.The market in Eastern Europe has changed, though, with leasing companies increasingly active and having some mid-life fleets (TRAXX AC etc). Siemens also now offer their low-cost Smartron locos.
Basically because it is cheaper to run the trains with diesels than electricity due to the sharp increases in power. The freight operators could not pass the increased cost to the customers, so opted for lowest cost option. In time, I'd expect more 92s on tunnel freights, especially when gauge enhancements are done through Kent to W12 gauge for containers.. More over the network, I guess the 93/99 bimodes etc are the future.Why have DB's 90's been taken out of service and stored at Crewe?
I've been told it went to Booths but not by a massively reliable source so don't take that as genseen a photo of 90033 on a lowloader anyone know whats happened with it?
It's going to Sandbach car & commercial dismantles for disposal & 90030 is next.I've been told it went to Booths but not by a massively reliable source so don't take that as gen
I believe so. WNXX reports that 90033 was stored April 2005, and 90030 was stored January 2006, so it's entirely realistic that these 2 locos have spent approx half their lives in store.These are the first 90s to be scrapped aren’t they?
How about the Freightliner one that burned?These are the first 90s to be scrapped aren’t they?
90 050? The shell still exists - it's not scrapped...How about the Freightliner one that burned?
Were they being used as spares donors, or will the parts be recovered before final scrapping?I believe so. WNXX reports that 90033 was stored April 2005, and 90030 was stored January 2006, so it's entirely realistic that these 2 locos have spent approx half their lives in store.
And is in fact well on it's way to being cosmetically restored at the Crewe Heritage Centre, where it currently resides on loan from Freightliner.90 050? The shell still exists - it's not scrapped...
233 and 033 are the same loco. You can't count them twice!Arh 033 was on of my last three, I had 233 but not 033
No I don't hence me saying arh 033 one of my last three233 and 033 are the same loco. You can't count them twice!
And possibly a candidate for preservation maybe.And is in fact well on it's way to being cosmetically restored at the Crewe Heritage Centre, where it currently resides on loan from Freightliner.