There is no street running on the Seaton Tramway either apart from where it crosses roads, it is built on the bed of an old railway lineExcept there are no "grey areas".
There is NO STREET RUNNING on London's DLR.
Not at Stratford, not at Canary Wharf, not at Bank/Tower Gateway, not at Greenwich, not at Lewisham, not at Woolwich, not at Beckton. Nowhere on the system.
I wonder whether @Sunil_P considers these to be tramways or not? Neither are street running, after all…Not on list: Manx Elextric, Snaefell
Indeed. When it comes to what terms to use for tramways/light railways/interurbans etc. the terms are extremely interchangeable and hard to define. What constitutes which is the matter of great debate, history and personal choice, and it is impossible to provide a consistent definition. Grey areas all round, where not even the exception will prove the rule.There is no street running on the Seaton Tramway either apart from where it crosses roads, it is built on the bed of an old railway line
No, maybe not, but that doesn't change the fact that the vehicles are built extremely similarly to trams and indeed are capable of running as trams (with some conversion works, of course), which for some people is enough that they would consider the DLR in the same category as street-running tramways.But not actually running as trams as part of the DLR.
DLR stock use bottom contact third rail. How many street running systems use bottom contact third rail?No, maybe not, but that doesn't change the fact that the vehicles are built extremely similarly to trams and indeed are capable of running as trams (with some conversion works, of course), which for some people is enough that they would consider the DLR in the same category as street-running tramways.
That is why OP has included it in the poll. I don't understand what is wrong with this. If you don't think it's a valid answer to the question "which tramways have you used", then don't select it in the poll, it's as simple as that.
Surprise, surprise - NO, I wouldn't consider the Manx network OR Seaton as tramways.I wonder whether @Sunil_P considers these to be tramways or not? Neither are street running, after all…
Indeed. When it comes to what terms to use for tramways/light railways/interurbans etc. the terms are extremely interchangeable and hard to define. What constitutes which is the matter of great debate, history and personal choice, and it is impossible to provide a consistent definition. Grey areas all round, where not even the exception will prove the rule.
Bottom contact third rail? None. But top or side contact ‘third rail’? Plenty.DLR stock use bottom contact third rail. How many street running systems use bottom contact third rail?
I imagine few to none because of safety concerns. But I don't see the relevance of this, as nobody is trying to argue that the DLR is street running!!DLR stock use bottom contact third rail. How many street running systems use bottom contact third rail?
As I live in Melbourne that in recent years with downsizing of Moscow has seen my home city become the largest worldwide tram network, perhaps I have an unfair advantage. An hour ago I was on a route 72 Camberwell - Melbourne University that on Saturday morning had a good number of Prahran Market and other shoppers on board. This is one of Melbourne's few cross--suburban routes. See yarratrams.com.au
I have also travelled on:
UK:
Blackpool
Croydon Tramlink
Docklands Light Railway (if valid for inclusion?)
Douglas (horse tram and Snaefell etc.)
Manchester Metrolink: Altrincham line to the terminus, returning to London by rail, changing at a Stockport for the then Virgin West Coast train
Australia:
Adelaide plus its museum at St Kilda, South Australia
Melbourne
Sydney (light rail in the city plus Sydney Tramway Museum at Loftus NSW, accessible by Sydney Trains)
Ballarat (museum but Lake Wendouree streetside running)
Bendigo (museum but operates on public roads)
Newcastle NSW (largest coal port worldwide, short line mostly using former rail line)
Victor Harbor (South Australia - horse tram)
Other nations:
Amsterdam
Ascunsion (so long ago I've forgotten the details)
Basel
Boston
Budapest (one of the most enjoyable!)
Calcutta (in December 2019, seemed to only operate one line as I waited a long time on another route but no tram arrived)
Christchurch (museum line on public streets)
Dresden
Frankfurt
Freiburg (im Breisgau)
Helsinki (enjoyable)
Heidelberg (Germany, not in Melbourne, as trams in latter don't serve it)
Hiroshima
Hong Kong New Territories (ironically on Melbourne-manufactured trams)
Krakow (excellent)
Leipzig
Lisbon (single truck trams on the historic 'old town' route)
Los Angeles (whether suitable for inclusion I don't know)
Munich
Moscow (notorious for being stuck at intersections in traffic jams)
New Orleans
Portland (not Victoria, Australia that has a fake cable tram, but the USA west coast city)
Prague
San Francisco (good variety at the time)
San Diego/Tijuana USA/Mexico
Seattle (two unconnected fairly short lines)
St Petersburg
Tallinn
Toronto (2016, before older trams were withdrawn)
Vienna (like Prague, very good)
Zurich
Vienna
I will be visiting myself soon! What particularly did you find interesting about it?Just done part of the Budapest system today. Very interesting.
Lovely old trams and line 2 is very scenic!I will be visiting myself soon! What particularly did you find interesting about it?
One of my favourite cities I’ve visited, and the 72 hour ticket was exceptional value I thoughtJust done part of the Budapest system today. Very interesting.
About £56 now, but also gives entry to many attractions.One of my favourite cities I’ve visited, and the 72 hour ticket was exceptional value I thought
No not that one.About £56 now, but also gives entry to many attractions.
I'm old enough to have ridden the trams in the last tram week in London.Hi everyone.
Just wondering which tramways, existing and lost, at home and abroad, you have used.
Trams are wonderful in my opinion, and sharing knowledge about any trip on any tramway would be interesting.
If in doubt about whether steam trams or "tram-trains" count, it always does as far as this thread is concerned.
Feel free to say which are your favourites trams.
Many thanks
Personally I used both cliff trams in Scarborough, the one in Saltburn, and in Lynton.
Used traditional trams in Blackpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham, Great Orme, and also the DLR.