Future of the Settle to Carlisle, Bentham and Ribble Valley lines

[Ken H]

Peak hour trains already stop at Steeton for Leeds business.

As for Ilkley/Otley to beyond Skipton - Steeton isn't particularly convenient to drive to, but if anyone really wanted to avoid the parking problem at Skipton there are plenty of stoppers from Steeton.

Steeton is quite close to Airedale Hospital. But a bit far to walk unless you are fit. Few buses unless you change at Steeton. Pity there isnt a pedestrian way through from the station to the back of the hospital. (Airedale has a catchment that includes Keighley and the Worth Valley, Colne, Skipton, Settle and upper Ribblesdale and Ilkley and Upper Wharfedale. )

 

[Grumpy]

3/4/6 car EMU’s are much more fit for the purpose of soaking up any additional passengers, than already crowded 2 car DMU’s, with already slow end-to-end journey times. And most regular uses of the car park, will be using it to head to places with an existing direct train anyway.

Agreed. But the EMU's don't go beyond Skipton and the aim would be to provide something more appealing for potential passengers wishing to travel north of Skipton

As for Ilkley/Otley to beyond Skipton - Steeton isn't particularly convenient to drive to, but if anyone really wanted to avoid the parking problem at Skipton there are plenty of stoppers from Steeton.

I would argue that driving to Steeton station is easier than driving to Skipton station. And taking a stopper from Steeton to Skipton with the resultant need to change is a deterrent to travel

 

[Iskra]

Agreed. But the EMU's don't go beyond Skipton and the aim would be to provide something more appealing for potential passengers wishing to travel north of Skipton


I would argue that driving to Steeton station is easier than driving to Skipton station. And taking a stopper from Steeton to Skipton with the resultant need to change is a deterrent to travel

The market for people wanting to go North of Skipton is probably miniscule.

 

[30907]

Steeton is quite close to Airedale Hospital. But a bit far to walk unless you are fit. Few buses unless you change at Steeton. Pity there isnt a pedestrian way through from the station to the back of the hospital.

I agree on both counts! An hourly bus offpeak would be better.

(Airedale has a catchment that includes Keighley and the Worth Valley, Colne, Skipton, Settle and upper Ribblesdale and Ilkley and Upper Wharfedale. )

...and Saltaire

But

I would argue that driving to Steeton station is easier than driving to Skipton station.

Probably during the day - less so if you are a weekend day out customer.

BTW From Ilkley (and perhaps Otley) to the S and C wouldn't you (when the full half-hourly timetable is operating) simply go via Shipley with generally decent connections?

 

[InkyScrolls]

I would argue that driving to Steeton station is easier than driving to Skipton station. And taking a stopper from Steeton to Skipton with the resultant need to change is a deterrent to travel

And yet plenty of people do just that.

 

[M&NEJ]

BTW From Ilkley (and perhaps Otley) to the S and C wouldn't you (when the full half-hourly timetable is operating) simply go via Shipley with generally decent connections?

Yes, absolutely: from the opposite direction, I sometimes travel on the "Bentham" line to go to stations to Ilkley (e.g. Menston for the bus to Otley) so I change at Shipley.

 

[lyndhurst25]

Steeton is quite close to Airedale Hospital. But a bit far to walk unless you are fit. Few buses unless you change at Steeton. Pity there isnt a pedestrian way through from the station to the back of the hospital. (Airedale has a catchment that includes Keighley and the Worth Valley, Colne, Skipton, Settle and upper Ribblesdale and Ilkley and Upper Wharfedale. )

And, except of a couple of diversions of the 62 Ilkley to Keighley bus via the hospital each day, Airedale hospital doesn’t even have a direct bus link to the sizeable town of Ilkley. Diverting every 62 via the hospital would give both Ilkley and Steeton station useful transport links to the the hospital. The time penalty can’t be that great, probably no greater than the 62 going round the houses in Silsden as it currently does.

(Looking at the bus timetable there is a 5-7 minutes time penalty to go via the hospital. Worth it for the improved transport links?).

 

[Ken H]

And, except of a couple of diversions of the 62 Ilkley to Keighley bus via the hospital each day, Airedale hospital doesn’t even have a direct bus link to the sizeable town of Ilkley. Diverting every 62 via the hospital would give both Ilkley and Steeton station useful transport links to the the hospital. The time penalty can’t be that great, probably no greater than the 62 going round the houses in Silsden as it currently does.

(Looking at the bus timetable there is a 5-7 minutes time penalty to go via the hospital. Worth it for the improved transport links?).

maybe the hospital have some sort of impediment to more buses. The perimeter road is narrow and has speed bumps. Only the Burnely bus usually goes round the hospital plus a few infrequent minibuses. The 66 Keighley - Skiptons dont. You have to walk up to/from the road. I know the path through car park one and through the subway well!

 

[30907]

And, except of a couple of diversions of the 62 Ilkley to Keighley bus via the hospital each day, Airedale hospital doesn’t even have a direct bus link to the sizeable town of Ilkley. Diverting every 62 via the hospital would give both Ilkley and Steeton station useful transport links to the the hospital. The time penalty can’t be that great, probably no greater than the 62 going round the houses in Silsden as it currently does.

(Looking at the bus timetable there is a 5-7 minutes time penalty to go via the hospital. Worth it for the improved transport links?).

The two loops (Silsden and Airedale) are similar time-wise.

The problem is that Keighley-Airedale is pretty well served (which, incidentally, makes changing at Steeton Top a tolerable option) so the 62 would really only be picking up Addingham/Ilkley to Airedale traffic (Silsden is covered by the 903 minibus during the day). And although the round-the-houses loop is tedious for through passengers, there's a lot of people live there!

(ISTR the previous service pattern was hourly to Ilkley (and for a while beyond) direct and hourly to the Silsden loop.)

 

[Grumpy]

Probably during the day - less so if you are a weekend day out customer.



BTW From Ilkley (and perhaps Otley) to the S and C wouldn't you (when the full half-hourly timetable is operating) simply go via Shipley with generally decent connections?

Ilkley to Steeton by train over an hour with an open hike to change platforms. Or approx 15 minutes by car.
No I wouldn't.